Sure wish I knew, for sure, which one is the real Craven. I’m very confused who I should be rooting for … so, I think I’ll just root for widespread mayhem and badassery. I think there should be little disappointment upcoming in those departments …
Incredible installment, boys! Pour yourselves a shot and a beer. I’ll throw a couple silver pieces Pixies way and ask her to drop off the bottles at your table. Huzzah!
Thanks. And here’s the liquor talking: take the simplest explanation of all the available facts, which means taking what this man says about himself and the situation as true barring proof to the contrary, and root for his victory. Then, if you’re surprised, you’ll have legitimate reason for being surprised.
No, in this case the Razor is only as sharp in application as the minds (or the willingness therein) that apply it… which doesn’t bode well as fewer and fewer seem able or willing to use it well. When someone of my personality type, who is like a boy doing a man’s job in this department of life, has to point out Occam’s Razor to the rest of the world, the rest of the world is in deep doo-doo.
…the way I prefer to explain it, “the simplest and yet the most complete explanation possible of all the available facts”. One could go on (closest to the truth, preferable, elegant, etc.) but that summarizes what’s nearest and dearest to my “innocent child’s heart” about life.
Cosmetically? Who cares? Heal the inner damage on yourself, then cause it in someone else. Makes good sense to me!
3x, I’m pretty sure that the one with the van Dyke is the “real” craven – but I could just be partial (after all, I’m a “good guy” and I’ve got a van Dyke. Between puberty and now, the only time I’ve been clean-shaven was in Basic.)
Just going by pattern – it’s uncommon for the imposter to be locked up with the original visiting him, but having the imposter visiting the chained-down original is common. Bad guys gotta gloat, y’know? That, and keep boning up on his impression.
Always referred to mine as a goat but, technically, mine is also a Van Dyke … in fact, trimmed tight very much like Craven’s, though mine is greying along nicely by now.
I was leaving open the benefit of the confusion. David has pulled out a lot of change-ups and twists … and I can see where either of these guys could still be the ‘good guy.’ perhaps even both. Not enough true clues as to motivation yet, and there could be excellent reasons for both of their behaviors. One small clue that keeps me doubting at the moment is that the abducting of Bill was pretty casual and matter-of-fact, without violence. Another is the sequence of the appearances of the Craven versions … the timing is somewhat backwards. No reason why the one chained to the wall is actually telling the truth; he just spoke up first as the action started to break out.
I’m toying with the idea that they may both be Craven, just from different timelines/timestreams. Remember, David is an avid Trekster long before he started LoB … he has a lot of mind invested in time games / alternate universes, etc.
that’s why I’m rooting for mayhem. I’m sure enough tantalizing details are about to be revealed to settle some of the speculation. Right before we are whisked away to another scene full of neglected characters …
You and me both, bruddah. Got salt & pepper on my face as well (and going a bit pale at the temples – my wife just loves it!)
And yeah, I know about Reddick’s Trekker background (he knows too much to be a mere Trekkie, but I’m not sure if he qualifies as a Trekkist…) and I keep playing around with time travel and alternate universes myself (former RPG-er with an unhealthy fascination with quantum physics. “Quantum mechanics: the dreams that stuff is made of…”)
I just get picky about face fur – both of my boys grew goatees for a bit (just the chin-warmer – they couldn’t sprout a proper hairlip…) and I had to keep insisting that mine was NOT a “goatee” – I grew better face fur…
Of course, if they’re BOTH alternate quantum representations of Craven, we could be in for a VERY interesting duel…
You’re overlooking the other injuries that have already been healed. By comparison, the bruise under the eye is almost gone, leaving only the lower eyelid still a little purplish. Nice touch, that – it gives the effect of ongoing and almost complete healing (I should’ve been more precise on that) and it reminds us that David and Don haven’t just forgotten to draw in the injuries. (Considering that David switched which eye had been injured last time accidentally, I’m not surprised at his care now.)
The real question: Are we in for a Wizard’s duel like the one in the Disney movie, “The Sword and the Stone”, or are we just gonna see two Wizards blasting away at each other?
That second option could be a pretty brutal smackdown, considering the three encounters in the LOTR movies and in WILLOW. It could be quick and one-sided (LOTR-TROTK, the movie: the Witch King vs. Gandalf) or a Mexican standoff (LOTR-TROTK, the book: same characters, and I preferred them that way). Fortunately for all of them, they didn’t have a Bill interfering. We do. So who knows…
How about the wizards’ duel in “The Raven” (the 1963 movie with Vincent Price, Peter Lorre, and Boris Karloff not to be confused with the current film of the same name). Vincent at his best showing his humorous side — which is in keeping with LoB, after all.
Don’t forget about a recent Wizard’s battle: Dumbledore vs. Voldemort. That had some pretty impressive spell slinging going back and forth (OoTP). Though that was sort of a 3-way battle because Voldemort eventually settled in on Harry.
Thank you Don. I was wondering what everyone was talking about — “sparkly magic” and all that. At first I assumed that people had visited the sketches on Facebook, but soon figured out that I was missing something somewhere. I had forgotten that the page sometilmes “sticks.” “Refresh” did the job! Thanks again for reminding us.
David, awesome stance (I like the expression too – if he snarled a little more, it would almost be Billy Idol-ish ). Don, seriously siiiiiick lights. Woohoo!
You’ve heard of easter eggs, right?
Here’s an accidental one.
Go to Hal Lindsey’s website. Look at the July 13 video.
The shiny tabletop reflects his tie and shirt so that it looks like a kitty in the tabletop.
He even appears to be teasing the cat when he takes off his glasses and moves them around the “cat,” right around 8 minutes into the video.
okay i am not seeing the newest page all i am seeing is the the classic billpage from Monday i tried to reload it but not seeing craven doing anything pressed back and all i see is the page when bill stepped on the talisman, so am i outta the loop?
i tried that as well as also tried to do a complete shut down of my comp and did forced reload and then went to face book and clicked the link and it went to the classic bill page that we all love but still wouldnt show it till my power went out and now it showing the page for some odd reason on fire fox think it was the update we got.
The current strip is a picture of Craven, freshly busted out of his chains, saying “Now let’s really get this party started”. There’s also magical energy (glowing clusters of dots) surrounding him.
Yep, as predicted the first thing Craven did was heal himself.
But… surely it can’t be THIS easy, can it, even with “Fer Some Action” Craven and the Billzerker in the same room with C’thull?!
True. The Billzerker may well snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
For some reason Gandi II comes to mind. “He’s back and this time he’s going to kick some b—” “No more Mr. passive resistance.”
Hah, loved that movie. CONAN, the Librarian: Dooohn’t yewww knooowww da Dewey Decimalll System???
UHF and the Princess Bride were “cult favorites” at Oregon Tech.
(Mad scientists/engineers, right?)
The fall of C’thull who?
Careful Hoomi, you practically said the name of an Elder God. :O
“Like other minigames of this type, it’s very easy to play. You just open the box, read aloud the enclosed incantation…”
http://www.airshipentertainment.com/growfcomic.php?date=20070415
Fellow Billbarians: don’t forget to read the prior issue of that comic…
Sure wish I knew, for sure, which one is the real Craven. I’m very confused who I should be rooting for … so, I think I’ll just root for widespread mayhem and badassery. I think there should be little disappointment upcoming in those departments …
Incredible installment, boys! Pour yourselves a shot and a beer. I’ll throw a couple silver pieces Pixies way and ask her to drop off the bottles at your table. Huzzah!
*balances one bourbon, one shot and one beer (anyone?) for each on a tray and delivers to the boys* Courtesy of 3Xp4t
*changes shot for SCOTCH….duh.*
when you speak FREE DRINKS, think of TENNEESSEE CHARLIE.
i will have what the boys are having in the back room. hic
Thanks. And here’s the liquor talking: take the simplest explanation of all the available facts, which means taking what this man says about himself and the situation as true barring proof to the contrary, and root for his victory. Then, if you’re surprised, you’ll have legitimate reason for being surprised.
Or essentially, Occam’s Razor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor
Did Occam’s brand of razors get dull like Gillette’s did last year?
No, in this case the Razor is only as sharp in application as the minds (or the willingness therein) that apply it… which doesn’t bode well as fewer and fewer seem able or willing to use it well.
When someone of my personality type, who is like a boy doing a man’s job in this department of life, has to point out Occam’s Razor to the rest of the world, the rest of the world is in deep doo-doo.
Yes, that’s (most of) my preferred way of stating that principle.
…the way I prefer to explain it, “the simplest and yet the most complete explanation possible of all the available facts”. One could go on (closest to the truth, preferable, elegant, etc.) but that summarizes what’s nearest and dearest to my “innocent child’s heart” about life.
Hmm seems he isn’t one for the healing spells or at least he slept through that class – his eye still got a nice shade of blue.
Cosmetically? Who cares? Heal the inner damage on yourself, then cause it in someone else. Makes good sense to me!
3x, I’m pretty sure that the one with the van Dyke is the “real” craven – but I could just be partial (after all, I’m a “good guy” and I’ve got a van Dyke. Between puberty and now, the only time I’ve been clean-shaven was in Basic.)
Just going by pattern – it’s uncommon for the imposter to be locked up with the original visiting him, but having the imposter visiting the chained-down original is common. Bad guys gotta gloat, y’know? That, and keep boning up on his impression.
Always referred to mine as a goat but, technically, mine is also a Van Dyke … in fact, trimmed tight very much like Craven’s, though mine is greying along nicely by now.
I was leaving open the benefit of the confusion. David has pulled out a lot of change-ups and twists … and I can see where either of these guys could still be the ‘good guy.’ perhaps even both. Not enough true clues as to motivation yet, and there could be excellent reasons for both of their behaviors. One small clue that keeps me doubting at the moment is that the abducting of Bill was pretty casual and matter-of-fact, without violence. Another is the sequence of the appearances of the Craven versions … the timing is somewhat backwards. No reason why the one chained to the wall is actually telling the truth; he just spoke up first as the action started to break out.
I’m toying with the idea that they may both be Craven, just from different timelines/timestreams. Remember, David is an avid Trekster long before he started LoB … he has a lot of mind invested in time games / alternate universes, etc.
that’s why I’m rooting for mayhem. I’m sure enough tantalizing details are about to be revealed to settle some of the speculation. Right before we are whisked away to another scene full of neglected characters …
You and me both, bruddah. Got salt & pepper on my face as well (and going a bit pale at the temples – my wife just loves it!)
And yeah, I know about Reddick’s Trekker background (he knows too much to be a mere Trekkie, but I’m not sure if he qualifies as a Trekkist…) and I keep playing around with time travel and alternate universes myself (former RPG-er with an unhealthy fascination with quantum physics. “Quantum mechanics: the dreams that stuff is made of…”)
I just get picky about face fur – both of my boys grew goatees for a bit (just the chin-warmer – they couldn’t sprout a proper hairlip…) and I had to keep insisting that mine was NOT a “goatee” – I grew better face fur…
Of course, if they’re BOTH alternate quantum representations of Craven, we could be in for a VERY interesting duel…
You’re overlooking the other injuries that have already been healed. By comparison, the bruise under the eye is almost gone, leaving only the lower eyelid still a little purplish. Nice touch, that – it gives the effect of ongoing and almost complete healing (I should’ve been more precise on that) and it reminds us that David and Don haven’t just forgotten to draw in the injuries. (Considering that David switched which eye had been injured last time accidentally, I’m not surprised at his care now.)
Take away a wizard’s access to magic and he’s powerless, give it back to him and see just how powerful he becomes.
Works for cartoonists and colorists, too, I see.
DAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYUUUUUUUMMMMMM!!!!!!
He’s all sparklie magic and junk! That’s hot. GREAT drawing and awesome color effects guys. I;m excited to see what happens next!
Wait just a second! Sparkle magic? That’s it! His full name must be Craven Cullen!
The real question: Are we in for a Wizard’s duel like the one in the Disney movie, “The Sword and the Stone”, or are we just gonna see two Wizards blasting away at each other?
That second option could be a pretty brutal smackdown, considering the three encounters in the LOTR movies and in WILLOW. It could be quick and one-sided (LOTR-TROTK, the movie: the Witch King vs. Gandalf) or a Mexican standoff (LOTR-TROTK, the book: same characters, and I preferred them that way). Fortunately for all of them, they didn’t have a Bill interfering. We do. So who knows…
How about the wizards’ duel in “The Raven” (the 1963 movie with Vincent Price, Peter Lorre, and Boris Karloff not to be confused with the current film of the same name). Vincent at his best showing his humorous side — which is in keeping with LoB, after all.
Don’t forget about a recent Wizard’s battle: Dumbledore vs. Voldemort. That had some pretty impressive spell slinging going back and forth (OoTP). Though that was sort of a 3-way battle because Voldemort eventually settled in on Harry.
which is the real craven. why the one on the cover of the WHEATIES cereal box. send in you box tops and get a free Legend of Bill Decoder Ring.
Why is it I’m still seeing the guest strip of Bill taking a crap? Did it scare Craven off?
Open the page in another browser, that’s what I had to do. Firefox is not letting me see it either.
You can see it in Firefox if you clear your history – of everything, if need be.
Or refresh the page. I don’t know why that page “sticks”, I had to do that both at home and here at work.
Thank you Don. I was wondering what everyone was talking about — “sparkly magic” and all that. At first I assumed that people had visited the sketches on Facebook, but soon figured out that I was missing something somewhere. I had forgotten that the page sometilmes “sticks.” “Refresh” did the job! Thanks again for reminding us.
Oh, and by the way: Great Coloring Don! (and kudos to David, too, for an awesome composition)
I agree with the others, the remaining slightly bruised lower eyelid is a nice touch.
Thanks! Craven is using his power to heal himself, then he’s gonna chew some bubblegum and kick butt, and Craven is all out of bubblegum.
Ya gonna git it. Oh, ya gonna GIT IT!
*plays “Back in Black” guitar lead-in*
David, awesome stance (I like the expression too – if he snarled a little more, it would almost be Billy Idol-ish
). Don, seriously siiiiiick lights. Woohoo!
YEAH!! Kick ass Craven!!
You’ve heard of easter eggs, right?
Here’s an accidental one.
Go to Hal Lindsey’s website. Look at the July 13 video.
The shiny tabletop reflects his tie and shirt so that it looks like a kitty in the tabletop.
He even appears to be teasing the cat when he takes off his glasses and moves them around the “cat,” right around 8 minutes into the video.
And this has exactly what to do with this web comic?
Absolutely nothing.
But it’s in the same type of ridiculous humor…
Ummm, no.
okay i am not seeing the newest page all i am seeing is the the classic billpage from Monday i tried to reload it but not seeing craven doing anything pressed back and all i see is the page when bill stepped on the talisman, so am i outta the loop?
No, as noted above you probably need to clear your browser’s history, caches, etc. Don tipped me off about that once and it always works for me.
i tried that as well as also tried to do a complete shut down of my comp and did forced reload and then went to face book and clicked the link and it went to the classic bill page that we all love but still wouldnt show it till my power went out and now it showing the page for some odd reason on fire fox think it was the update we got.
and yes now lets get this party started quickly!
The current strip is a picture of Craven, freshly busted out of his chains, saying “Now let’s really get this party started”. There’s also magical energy (glowing clusters of dots) surrounding him.
ahh thanks for telling me what i am missing don i love how it looks!, now that i can see it
dot…dot…. dot …death, we need more glowing blue dots
Don’t worry DarkMyste, I’m sure there’s bound to be some fireworks in the next couple of strips.